Showing posts with label Criticism of WikiIslam. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Criticism of WikiIslam. Show all posts

Friday, 7 September 2012

Aisha's Age, "Islamophobic Propaganda" and Tayyab Tanvir's Shattered Faith

This is a quick response to a Facebook note published by Tayyab Tanvir on Saturday, 25 August 2012, titled "Aisha's Age and Islamophobic propaganda"

Slander & Attacking a Strawman

Tayyab Tanvir says:

"Islamophobes always come up with this discussion to degrade Mohammad(PBUH). Ironically enough they always quote an article from WikiIlsam. I have to admit the first time I came across WikiIslam and read the article about Aisha's age, it seemed like everything I believed in shattered. My mind could not accept that my Prophet(PBUH) would force a six year old girl to marry him. So I read few more articles on the website including one about how Quran encourages Muslims to kill non-believers. The author supported his argument with various Quranic verses. The interesting thing I noticed about them was that he intentionally left out important parts of the verses to support his faux argument. This made me realize how the author is manipulating Quranic verses and Hadiths only to spread confusion and degrade Islam."

This is not only an unsupported slandering of critics, but also a strawman argument. He is discussing an article titled "Aisha's Age of Consummation". The article "discusses the DMS (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual) of mental disorders and cites sahih hadiths to prove that Muhammad was a pedophile according to clinical definitions."

It does not argue the age of Aisha since mainstream Muslims (Sunni Islam i.e 80-90% of all Muslims) whole-heartedly accept that Aisha consummated her marriage to Prophet Muhammad when she was nine (the other 10-20%, the Shi'ites, say she may have been 9-10). It is only heretical Muslims, those who are not even considered Muslims by most (e.g. Ahmadis and so-called "reformist"), that argue she was an adult.

Taking Credit for Other's Work

Tayyab Tanvir says:

"Few days ago I was engaged in a debate on a facebook page. Admin of the page stated that Muslims can’t carry out a decent conversation and support it with facts but instead they would accuse “open minded” westerns of racism and send out hate mails and death threats. So I spent hours researching for data and hadiths to answer their claims, only to get banned in the end because somehow my comments were getting more likes than theirs."

He presents 10 different arguments against the young age of Aisha as the result of his "hours researching for data and hadiths". 

His friends are apparently impressed by "his" hard work. For example, Aymen Siddiqui says, "I am out of words for the amount of effort and research you have presented. Brilliant job !!!" And Owais Tahir says "I am amazed at the extensive research you have done , not a lot of people pay attention to matters like this . May Allah bless you".

But they are praising the wrong man. None of the claims presented in that page were thought up by Tayyab Tanvir. They are the work of Moiz Amjad, "The Learner".  Tayyab Tanvir is dishonestly taking the credit for someone else's work.

Tayyab Tanvir's Arguments Refuted 

Tayyab Tanvir's arguments, no, I mean Moiz Amjad arguments have all been refuted in an article titled "Refutation to Muslim Apologetics against Aisha's Age of Consummation".

For Muslims who may not trust critics, you can read "Our Mother A'isha's Age At The Time Of Her Marriage to The Prophet", Shaykh Gibril F Haddad's unanswered reply to Moiz Amjad.

Disingenuous & Cowardly Behavior

He complains about allegedly "being banned", but the fact that Tayyab Tanvir has been attacking a strawman, has been taking the credit for others work and has already been refuted, has been pointed out twice by a user named Issy Jones and once by me. And every single time, our comments have been deleted:


Conclusion

It is a fact that every single sahih hadith narration on Aisha's age when she had sex with Muhammad says she was nine-years-old.

So when Tayyab Tanvir claimed "I have to admit the first time I came across WikiIslam and read the article about Aisha's age, it seemed like everything I believed in shattered" he was either lying about Aisha's age making a difference to his faith, or his faith had been shattered but he's too indoctrinated to care.

Either way, this exposes the false protests made by shameless Muslim apologists who will shout "Islamophobe!!!" at anything they perceive as a threat to their missionary work, even if those "threats" simply repeat what the vast majority of the world's Muslims actually believe.

Resources on Aisha's Age

From Critics:

  1. A’isha: Mohammed’s Nine-Year Old Wife
  2. Aisha's Age of Consummation
  3. Refutation to Muslim Apologetics against Aisha's Age of Consummation
  4. Responses to Apologetics: Muhammad and Aisha
  5. Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Aisha
  6. Controversies about the age of Aisha 
  7. Aisha the Child Wife of Muhammad
  8. Moral Evaluations of the Marriage of the Prophet with Aisha 
  9. Muhammad, Aisha, Islam, and Child Brides
  10. Was Muhammad a Pedophile?
  11. Really, really wishing Aisha weren't nine

From Muslims:

  1. Our Mother A'isha's Age At The Time Of Her Marriage to The Prophet
  2. Child marriage in Islam
  3. I would like to marry a woman who is 12 years old, her father and she has also agreed. What is your advise?
  4. Ruling on marrying young women
  5. Is it acceptable to marry a girl who has not yet started her menses?

Saturday, 12 May 2012

WikiIslam a Redo: Atheist Blogger Doubting Marcus Apologizes, Retracts Criticism of WikiIslam

I have the utmost respect for Doubting Marcus. Unlike some religious folk, especially Muslims, his views are honest and therefore do not remain static. He has the humility and integrity to admit where he goes wrong.

Unfortunately, this has led to some dishonest Muslim websites and their racist and genocidal editors in 2012 using a post made by him on July 5, 2011, to attack WikiIslam (Marcus is not alone, they are also using, in these cases, very dishonest posts by the KnightsWiki blog and al-Qãhırıï, both of which have been decisively refuted on this blog).

What they conveniently fail to tell you is that Marcus publicly apologized to the editors of WikiIslam and humbly retracted his criticism of the site in a post made by him on December 17, 2011.


Mistakes Were Made By Me: Errata and Apologies
*Sorry for the length but I didn’t want to hide my errors behind a ‘read more’ link

A lot can and has changed in the past year and as my recent post about the Horsemen would suggest I probably wouldn’t post some videos and quotes by them today. However changing one’s mind as the evidence comes in isn’t an error unless you made a premature or incorrect declaration before you gathered that evidence. which I have on multiple occasions so the following is a short list of mistakes I’ve made in the past year.
The Wiki Islam Fiasco
I pointed out Wiki Islam as a potential resource then I later retracted that semi-endorsement because I noticed some material on their site I thought indicated heavy bias against Islam. There was, among other things, a subsection on the “Lying in Islam” page with quotes from Hitler and Goebbels on lying and a post in which one scholar was used to present a controversial topic on all sides. I didn’t realize then how hard it might be to monitor the content of a small wiki and after being contacted by a representative of the site [Ed: this was not me, i.e. Islamocritic] I pointed out the offending material and he immediately agreed that the Hitler material was offensive and removed it. However by the time I followed up again to further explain the other problems much had changed on the site and the other articles were no longer present. Honestly he was one of the nicest people I’ve had an exchange with and though I’m unsure if I would outright endorse the site, I certainly wouldn’t condemn it today. I should have communicated with them before making the damning statements and for that I apologize.

Wednesday, 9 May 2012

WikiIslam has Been Refuted!!! Muslim Apologists and their Retarded "Responses" and "Refutations"

Many years ago I observed a consistent pattern in Muslim debating techniques. You can tear their false claims to shreds all you like, but they will always return, only to reply again with the same claim reworded slightly (and possibly with added bravado or "LOL" smilies), or even return with something completely unrelated to the topic.

You can see this happening here in a forum discussion concerning Dhul-Qarnayn and the Sun Controversy in the Qur'an, between the author, several others, and a Qur'an-only "Muslim" (who ironically are almost always more hateful, antisemitic, anti-Christian and anti-Western than their hadith-totting Sunni and Shi'ite equivalents).

If my memory serves me correctly, the author eventually says he will no longer respond to the "Muslims" posts unless he brings up something new which has not already been addressed and refuted by him in his original post. The "Muslim" then claims victory and goes on to challenge others to "debate" him on the issue.

His false show of confidence (or maybe it's not false, maybe he really does think his replies are great) gives a casual reader the impression that he is right and his opponents are wrong. So, according to his, and many other Muslim apologists logic, the person who expresses the most bravado and has the last word is the victor.

Why am I discussing this here? Well, it's because the same is true for many of the Muslim "responses" and "refutations" to critics of Islam.

For example, one site has an article titled, "Refuting Prophet Muhammad said beat children who do not pray". When I viewed the title of this page, I instantly knew that it was not going to be "refuting" anything because the hadith literature clearly tell us Muhammad commanded the beating of children who do not pray.

And I was right. It simply quotes a fatwa by a respected Islamic scholar (a scholar which sites like WikiIslam also use as a source) who confirms what the critics claim, whilst also adding that:

...the educator must be merciful, forbearing, easy-going and approachable, not foul-mouthed or unkempt, arguing in a manner that is better, far removed from insulting, rebuking and beating, unless the child is one of those who willfully disobey and rejects his father’s commands and neglects his duties and does haraam things; in that case it is better to use stern measures with him, without causing him harm.

So how does this article "refute" the claim "Prophet Muhammad said beat children who do not pray"? It doesn't, and in fact supports the claim of the critics.

The same thing is done in another of their articles titled, "Refuting Muhammad said sick men heal by drinking camel urine". Rather than refute anything, it actually confirms what the critics are saying by actually trying, and failing, to prove that camel urine is a "scientific miracle".

So why the inaccurate titles? Again it's both a false show of bravado and the belief that he who has the last word is the victor. Links to these articles are then posted on forums in response to articles by critics, usually with accompanying smilies declaring victory and the text "Already refuted". This is usually enough to kill the thread, but if those who had initially posted the articles by critics spent some time in actually reading the links posted by Muslims, then they would clearly see that this is not the case.

Tuesday, 17 April 2012

Is WikiIslam Written by Right-Wing Christian Zionist Editors?

"Is WikiIslam written by Christians?" appears to be a popular incoming search term, so I thought the question deserved an answer.

To be clear, WikiIslam welcomes all potential editors, regardless of their personal beliefs. The webmaster/website owner is an atheist (no, it's not me), but if you adhere to the site's policies and guidelines, then your religious beliefs, or lack thereof, are irrelevant.

WikiIslam is meant as a resource for all critics, therefore it focuses strictly on Islam. You will generally not find articles there discussing Muslim immigration, multiculturalism, leftists-rightists, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict or President Obama, because these issues are of a political rather than religious nature.

Likewise, you will not find any articles there promoting or criticizing other religious beliefs or ideologies such as Christianity, Hinduism, Judaism and so on. However, it does accept the theory of Evolution as a scientific fact and aims for a rational approach in its handling of Islam.

Back to the original question;  "is WikiIslam written by Christians?" To those who are not well versed in debating Islam with Muslims and their apologists, this may seem like a strange question. The reason why it is asked is quite simple; they want to know which fallacious tu quque arguments to use against you. On some occasions they'll even flatly refuse to discuss Islam with you unless you "disclose" your world view.

Muslims and their apologists rarely care about free thought or discussing the Islamic texts and their theological implications. They want to stifle discussions on Islam by derailing them onto other beliefs. Some of them are so desperate that they'll ignore the fact that you're atheist and continue calling you a Christian, or falsely accuse you of using Christians and Jews as sources.

Regardless, for those who are interested, this is probably not the answer you were looking for, but here it is anyway:

Small sample of articles written by atheists (both male and female, WikiIslam is not Shari'ah compliant)

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Aisha_Age_of_Consummation
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Refutation_to_Muslim_Apologetics_against_Aisha's_Age_of_Consummation
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Creation_of_Humans_from_Clay
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Allah_the_Best_Deceiver
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Flat_Earth_and_the_Qur'an
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Earth_Made_of_Seven_Layers
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Embryology_in_the_Qur'an
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Allah:_I_sent_Jibreel_to_blow_into_Mary's_Vagina
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Allahu_Akbar
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Corruption_of_Previous_Scriptures_(Qur'an_2:79)
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islam_and_Bestiality
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur'an_and_Semen_Production_(Qur'an_86:7)
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur'an_and_the_Descent_of_Iron_Miracle
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur'an_and_the_Lying_Prefrontal_Cerebrum
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur'an_Describes_Gender_Determination_By_Sperm
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Dealing_Justly_with_Wives_and_Orphans_(Qur'an_4:3)
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islamic_Prophecies
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur'an_Only_Islam_-_Why_it_is_Not_Possible
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Michael_Jackson_(Conversion_to_Islam)
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur'an_Predicted_Black_Holes_And_Pulsars
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur'an_Predicted_Land_Decreasing
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Setting_the_Record_Straight:_The_Non-Miracle_of_Islamic_Science
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Purpose_of_the_Mahr
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur'an_and_Milk
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Revelation_of_the_Hijab
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Sahih
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/The_Root_of_Terrorism_a_la_Islamic_style
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/The_Miracle_of_19
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Unjust_Treatment_of_Wives_(Qur'an_4:129)
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Women_are_Deficient_in_Intelligence
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/The_Qur'an_and_Mountains
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Was_Muhammad_a_Lesser_Prophet_than_Moses_or_Jesus%3F
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Witnessing_the_Moon_Splitting_Miracle
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Google_Earth_proves_Islam
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Standing_Mosques
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muhammad's_Miracles
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Animals_Marked_by_Allah
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Moon_Split_Images
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Word_Count_Miracles_in_the_Qur'an
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Cousin_Marriage_in_Islam
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/The_Ramadan_Pole_Paradox
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islam,_Science_and_the_Problems_at_Wikipedia
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Scientific_Errors_in_the_Qur'an
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Speed_of_Light_in_the_Qur'an
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Adverse_Effects_of_Islamic_Fasting
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Contradictions_in_the_Qur'an
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Misconceptions_about_Jihad
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Jihad_is_Compulsory_(Fard)
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Converts_to_Islam
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/List_of_Killings_Ordered_or_Supported_by_Muhammad
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Why_Terrorism_is_Allowed_in_Islam
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Revelational_Circumstances_of_the_Qur'an
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Baby_with_Qur'anic_Verses
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Answers_to_Objections_When_Discussing_Islam

Small sample of articles written by agnostics

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Contradictions_in_Qur'anic_Christology
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/A_Brief_Analysis_of_Muhammad’s_Farewell_Sermon
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Aisha_and_Puberty
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Sex_Segregation_in_Islam
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/The_Genocide_of_Banu_Qurayza
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/The_Meaning_of_Consummate
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/The_Story_of_Umm_Qirfa
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/The_Tragedy_of_Aisha
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/The_Ultimate_Message_of_the_Qur'an

Small sample of articles written by deists

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/A_Qur’anic_Understanding_of_the_Universe
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Embryology_in_Islamic_Scripture
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Free_Will_and_Predestination_in_Islam
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islam_and_Science
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur'an_and_the_Big_Bang
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/The_Qur'an_Leads_the_Way_to_Science

In short; the vast majority of contributers to WikiIslam are either atheists or agnostics. But this bit of information is of no real importance because the validity of facts and truth itself does not depend on the personal beliefs of those who speak it.

Tuesday, 3 April 2012

The Pain of Doubt: Throwing a Tantrum when Delusions are Challenged

This is a response to "Dealing with Doubt: finding certainty when faith is attacked", an article by Qãhırıï, a black Muslim convert who, according to his Facebook postings, apparently believes he has "refuted WikiIslam".

Bias under the guise of academic objectivity?

In its “About” page, WikiIslam claims to be a “website where anyone can post anything about Islam”, “a community-edited website where Muslims and non-Muslims are able to share their knowledge of Islam in separate articles”. It also claims to be “the one-stop source of high-quality factual and objective information about Islam” and promises to allow Muslims to have their own articles in response to an article on the site.”

WikiIslam, as its name suggests, is a wiki website. If Qãhırıï thought the description was inaccurate, he could have easily changed it. Previously, before the above description was added, the "About" page stated that, "WikiIslam is a community edited web site where opinions critical of Islam are not censored for achieving a 'neutral point of view' (NPOV)." This description seems fine, so why didn't Qãhırıï revert the page back to this? Being the pious and irrational Muslim that he is, he creates an account at WikiIslam, and rather than correct the mistake, he  shamelessly proceeds to vandalize the page in an attempt at self-promotion.

To give Qãhırıï some credit, the description was pretty inaccurate, which is why it was changed a long time ago. Currently it states, "WikiIslam is a community edited website which focuses on the critique of Islam, whilst also allowing pro-Islamic responses in separate articles... WikiIslam's goal is to become the one-stop source of information critical of Islam. This information is based primarily on its own sources, the Qur'an, hadith and Islamic scholars." This is a very accurate description of the site.

There are, to be fair, articles by Muslims, but these are nowhere to be found when reading the articles that they address. In other words, Muslim submissions, specifically pro-Islamic ones, are kept separate, hidden, in fact, from the non-Muslim submissions.

This is not true. If pro-Islamic submissions are not linked to an article critical of Islam, it means that they were never written in response to any existing articles. You can hardly fault WikiIslam for not linking to non-existent articles. Conversely, if you look at the pro-Islamic content with "Response" in their titles, they are indeed linked from the pages they are responding to (e.g. here, here, & here)

Misinterpreting evidence by quoting it out of context?

Unfortunately, an intentional bias does in fact exist. On its page about Islam’s (supposed) racism, there is a heading “Racism against Infidel Arab Tribes.” Under this heading is a translation of a verse of the Qur-an.
“The Arabs of the desert are the worst in Unbelief and hypocrisy, and most fitted to be in ignorance of the command which Allah hath sent down to His Messenger: But Allah is All-knowing, All-Wise.”
This is a sound translation of the meaning of the Qur-an, chapter 9, verse 97 to be exact.
According to the above verse, the Qur-an is indeed racist (or desertist, perhaps) against the Bedouin Arabs.
Read two verses further, though, and the Qur-an paints a more balanced picture of them:
“But some of the desert Arabs believe in Allah and the Last Day, and look on their payments as pious gifts bringing them nearer to Allah and obtaining the prayers of the Messenger. Aye, indeed they bring them nearer (to Him): soon will Allah admit them to His Mercy: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.” (Qur-an 9.99)
Considering the length to which the website goes in other places to review and present Islamic evidence, it is naïve to assume that this was a mistake. This omission, which reverses both the context and meaning of the verse, is either unforgivably negligent, or intentionally misleading. In fact, this is a textbook trick used to slander Islam.

Qãhırıï's argument in defense of the Qur'an's prejudices is extremely weak. Let me demonstrate by rewording the Qur'an to fit a more familiar setting for my readers:

“The Negroes of the ghettos are the worst in Unbelief and hypocrisy, and most fitted to be in ignorance of the command which God hath sent down to the Grand Wizard: But God is All-knowing, All-Wise.”  (KKK Sermon 9:97)

Does any of the above prejudices be negated by the following passage?

“But some of the ghetto Negroes believe in God and the Grand Wizard, and look on their payments as pious gifts bringing them nearer to Him and obtaining the approval of the Grand Wizard. Aye, indeed they bring them nearer (to Him): soon will God admit them to His Mercy: for He is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.” (KKK Sermon 9:99)

The fact that the Grand Wizard (i.e. Muhammad) speaks approvingly of the few blacks (i.e. desert Arabs) who submit to his abhorrent ideology does not change the overt racism/prejudice displayed earlier (a prejudice that Qãhırıï openly admits is present in Surah 9:97).

WikiIslam’s claim to a neutral, open or unbiased presentation of Islam has been disproved.
Its true intention of slandering Islam at any cost, even that of its own integrity, has been proven.

WikiIslam does not claim it is neutral or unbiased. In fact, they make it abundantly clear in their 'About' page, FAQ page and Google description that they are a website critical of Islam. And bias or neutrality does not alter facts. WikiIslam references all of its statements to pro-Islamic, scholarly or reliable neutral sources, therefore their bias is irreverent.

Personally, I find it offensive when reading of blacks who have converted to Islam. It is as puzzling to me as a Jew embracing Nazism or a black person embracing the KKK. You only have to look to the situation in Sudan, Mauritania or Libya to see how Islam breeds racism and slavery. A lot of weak justifications have been provided by Muslims, but they never stand up to closer scrutiny.

I often hear that, in the US, Muslim dawagandists often tell Afro-Americans that Muhammad was a black man in order to convert them. However, the hadith literature go to great lengths in telling us he was actually a white man.

Dawagandists also claim that Muhammad provided a system that would eventually lead to the abolition of slavery, but this is not true and nowhere does Islamic scripture support such a statement. This is not a claim made by me, but by Muslim scholars themselves. For example; Saudi Sheikh Saleh Al-Fawzan, a member of the Senior Council of Clerics, who in 2003 proclaimed, "Slavery is a part of Islam...(those who argue that slavery is abolished are) ignorant, not scholars. They are merely writers. Whoever says such things is an infidel.". Yes, Muhammad regulated it and allowed for the manumission of a slave, but this is by no means an obligation. In Islam the freeing of a slave is like an "indulgence". Therefore, it is a punishment for being naughty, i.e. something that should be avoided.

Muhammad's actions perpetuated the existence of slavery by institutionalizing it within Islam. Muhammad was a slave-trader. He not only owned many male and female slaves, but also captured, sold, and, in the case of Mariyah the Copt, had sex with his slaves. At times, he actually discouraged the freeing of slaves. He encouraged racism by exchanging two black slaves for one Arab, and even Bilal, the famed "black Muslim", was bought in exchange for a black non-Muslim slave.

Muslim apologists are so self-conscious of the racism that inherently exists in Islam, that they have had to lower themselves into creating a fabricated Farewell Sermon that states, "an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white". The authentic Farewell Sermon contains no such statement and advocates wife-beating, comparing them to domestic animals.

Faulty methodology and logic?

According to WikiIslam, Muhammad was impotent.
“As per my research, Muhammad, during the last years of his life was suffering from acromegaly. One side-effect of this degenerative disease is impotence. He had erectile dysfunction.”
On the same page, he is accused of having a “scandalous love affair”. He also apparently deprived his wives of sex that he was not able to have:
“So the prophet decides to punish all of them and not sleep with any one of his wives for one month. Depriving one’s wives sexually is the second grade of punishment recomendedn in Quran.”
In another places WikiIslam alleges that he was a pedophile, rapist and sex addict.
So, according to WikiIslam, a man is impotent, that is, unable to have sex. While he is unable to have sex, he has a love affair. He punishes his wives that he is unable to have sex with by depriving them of sex he is apparently not having with them. Then, while unable to get an erection, he rapes women. He also has an apparent addiction for this thing that he can not do.

Wrong.

WikiIslam does not claim Muhammad was impotent. Apparently Qãhırıï did not notice how the article in question is written in the first-person, meaning it's an essay. Essays, as it now clearly states, “do not necessarily reflect the views of WikiIslam.” Naturally, essays only reflect the views of the author.

Are they serious?

Yes they are. According to Islam's own sources, Muhammad was a pedophile and rapist addicted to sex.

How could they arrive at these differing conclusions from the same sources of evidence?
These laughable blunders could only have happened under one of three scenarios:
A. The WikiIslam team is confused.
At best, they are confused. Everyone gets confused sometimes, and while we can forgive them for this, we can not take their word about the thing they are confused about.
B. WikiIslamists are methodologically unsound.
If they are not confused, then they have devised a methodology which leads them to contradicting conclusions. If that is the case, i.e. that their use of reason is faulty and/or inconsistent, then we can not consider any single conclusion found by this methodology to be reliable.
C. The WikiIslamists are blinded by their own hatred.
At worst, they bear so much malice towards Islam that they will disparage it in any way they can think of, without apparently thinking. If this is so, not only are they blinded by hatred, in a way that makes their judgment questionable, but they are deceitful about their claim to objectivity, putting them doubly in doubt. Further and lastly, as they are not objective and in fact maliciously biased, their word can not be trusted.
The correct conclusions are both B and C. WikiIslam is methodologically unsound. A simple but crude way of saying that is: they don’t know how to think.

None of  Qãhırıï's conclusions are correct because they are all based on a false premise assuming WikiIslam claims Muhammad was impotent.

As a result of this, it appears Qãhırıï is the one who doesn't know how to think and it is him who is fond of making laughable blunders.

In making an accusation against Muhammad regarding an incident in his household, WikiLeaks narrates a long narration, whose chief narrator was a companion of the prophet named Abdullah bin ‘Abbas. 

It's WikiIslam, not WikiLeaks.

WikiIslam defends one narration specifically because Bukhari narrated it, with no other reason given. Then, in the same argument, they reject a narration, collected by the same person, with no reason given.

Wrong. That article is an essay, so WikiIslam does not defend or reject any of the narrations on that page. If someone has questions regarding the claims on that page they should obviously direct them towards its author, not WikiIslam.

So is his name good or not? WikiIslam has no way, or a very flawed one, of classifying a narration as sound or unsound. They accept Bukhari’s narration on one occasion and reject it from another arbitrarily. They, for example, do not make a comment on Bukhari’s particular science of narrations. This is because they have no science. 

 Wrong again.

Imam Bukhari (Muhammad Ibn Ismail Ibn Ibrahim Ibn al-Mughirah Ibn Bardizbah al-Bukhari) was an Islamic scholar and collector of ahadith. His name is undoubtedly "good". His work is second in importance only to the Qur'an itself. In fact WikiIslam uses his "science" of hadith to correct a widespread but erroneous belief among Muslims, the belief that Muhammad performed miracles.

Imam Bukhari admitted that some unauthentic narrations may have slipped by, but, when dealing with sahih hadith narrations, the burden of proof is always on the person who claims a certain narration is not authentic to provide the evidence for why they consider it to be not authentic.

Imam Bukhari came up with three criteria which he used to determine whether or not a narration was sahih or not. His third criteria is mat'n, i.e. the content of a narration must not be in contradiction with the Qur'an. The only exception to this rule is the narrations regarded by scholars to be Qudsi (narrations which contain non-Qur'anic words from Allah).

Some hadith record that Muhammad denied being able to perform miracles, and an analysis of the Qur'an clearly shows that he had repeatedly done so when confronted by critics. Therefore, according to imam Bukhari's criteria, the narrations which claim miracles on Muhammad's behalf must be discarded.

They are (mis)guided only by the drive to prove what they are not investigating but have already decided to be true, and they disavow by any or no reason anything that contests their pre-conceived conclusions. These simplistic and ignoble guidelines can never lead to a correct conclusion.

Again, since I have pointed out his many errors, it would seem all of the above drivel would be more accurate if applied to Qãhırıï himself rather than WikiIslam.

Open hostility & what this all means

WikiIslam readers would do better to read only from credible, reliable and knowledgeable sources about Islam or any other subject they would like to learn about.

As I elaborate in a previous article,  what is being done here in order to defend Islam is "beheading the messenger" [i.e.  attacking the messenger ], a subdivision of the ad hominem logical fallacy.

WikiIslam uses only credible, reliable and knowledgeable sources about Islam for its critique, and it is in fact Muslims and their apologists who often turn to polemic and biased sources to support their claims. Don't take my word for it. Why not put Qãhırıï's advice to the test for yourself?

I did just that when I come across a forum discussion which included the discussion of Aisha's age at consummation. Some WikiIslam articles were cited by a user, and the response was to label WikiIslam a hate site and link to an apologetic article claiming Aisha may have been up to 19-years-old at the time of her consummation. All of the arguments presented in the article, and more, were first popularized by an apologist named Moiz Amjad.  Unfortunately for the apologists, they have all been refuted by WikiIslam. Additionally, Shaykh Haddad, one of the most respected Islamic scholars alive today and someone who I respect immensely, replied to his polemics many years ago. His reply was never addressed by Moiz Amjad.

It is clear, in this instance, that it is WikiIslam who provide their readers with information based on credible, reliable and knowledgeable sources about Islam, not the sites that are presented by Muslims like Qãhırıï. It is the same with the issue concerning 72 virgins. Whilst Muslims will often provide you with articles that claim it's all a Jewish conspiracy, WikiIslam provides you with references from scholarly pro-Islamic sources (here, here & here).

In fact, because of their provable deceit and obvious biases, they are confirming what they are so vehement in guiding people away from. They are false, which shows what they oppose to be true. They falsify, which only clarifies the truth they are trying to hide.

Fallacious nonsense.

Ignoring the fact that Qãhırıï has proven nothing, if A accuses B of C, and B claims D,  C being incorrect does not make D correct.

For example; if I (A) accuse Qãhırıï (B) of being a member of the KKK (C), and Qãhırıï (B) claims "there is no god but Allah, and Muhammad is his Messenger" (D), the fact that I am incorrect in claiming Qãhırıï belongs to the KKK (C) does not prove that Allah exists or that he sent a pedophile as his last Messenger (D).

We should throw the testimony of this biased witness and dishonest accuser out of the court of reason. WikiIslam, for its part, should close, and its contributors and editors should inspect their morality, integrity, and ability to reason. 

Sorry to disappoint, but I highly doubt WikiIslam is disappearing anytime soon, and it is Qãhırıï who seems more deserving of being thrown out of the "court of reason".  As for the editors "inspecting their morality, integrity, and ability to reason", it is Qãhırıï who needs to do this, but self-reflection and criticism is something which is alien to most of the Muslim world, so I won't be holding my breath.

In the middle of the aforementioned long accusation, the author’s argument breaks into the exclamation:
“What can a prophet ask more?… Alhamdulillah! AllahuAkbar! Subhanallah. Isn’t Allah great?”
This is far removed from any intellectual or academic language. (It isn’t even good English, but that’s not the point.)

As has already been mentioned, essays do not reflect the views of WikiIslam. Additionally, Qãhırıï should be ashamed of himself. In another section he points out a spelling mistake (Bukhari mis-spelled as Bukahri). The author whom he is ridiculing for his deficiency in the English language is not a native English speaker. Considering the fact that he is an Iranian, his grasp of the English language is impressive and should be commended. Not all of us have the luxury of growing up in the "land of the free".

The wider application of this is that WikiIslam is not alone. Muslim-bashing, Islamophobia, call it whatever you like, there is a growing and concerted effort to disparage Islam and Muslims, and unfortunately it’s working. Almost no Muslims are terrorists, and almost no terrorists are Muslims,

What's good for the goose is good for the gander. If Muslims can play games, then so can we. Qãhırıï links to a ridiculous article by an Islamist-supporting website affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood-linked CAIR. This website has been accused of  spreading distorted information, using hate sites as sources, misinterpreting sources, linking to a site that supports the slaughter of Muslims, and much more.  

Qãhırıï, like many Muslims, accuses sites critical of Islam of many thing, then sees no problem in endorsing pro-Islamic sites which are just as biased as them and have been accused of doing the same things he claims sites critical of Islam are guilty of. This is the epitome of hypocrisy and rarely are Muslims called on it.

Predictably, there is no need for me to sink to their level. That article linked by Qãhırıï has already been refuted.

Almost no Muslims are terrorists, and almost no terrorists are Muslims, but the media is leading people to think the opposite. 

Absolute rubbish.  As WikiIslam puts it, "Partly through fear and partly through politically correct hypocrisy, the Western media rarely publish news stories involving Islamic violence and persecution. This may seem a strange statement to some who constantly hear other proclaiming that the media focuses far too much on the negative actions of Muslims, but did you know that in 2008 alone, there were 2,204 separate documented incidents of Islamically motivated violence which led to death? In total there were 10,779 deaths and another 18,213 critically injured. That's more people killed each and every year in the name of Islam, than in all 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition combined. More than 29 people are killed in religiously motivated attacks every single day at the hands of Muslims, but do do you hear of this on the TV or radio? If you spend just one short hour reading through some of the news articles we have compiled, there would have been another one to two deaths attributed to Islam and countless other incidents involving beatings, rapes, abductions, forced conversions, desecration of non-Muslim buildings etc. No other religion or ideology [past or present] inspires the sort of hate that Islam produces."

Just browse through their collection of news articles on the persecution of non-Muslims, ex-Muslims, homosexuals and women, and ask yourself, "how many of these incidents were covered in the mainstream news?" The answer is, "very few". Western media is inherently Eurocentric and rarely focuses on what happens outside of Europe, United States, Canada and Australia.

Even when it comes to Muslim violence within these areas, the media does all it can to not focus on them or to obfuscate the religious nature behind them.

A good example of this is the UK media handling of the 2001 "race riots" by "Asians" in Oldham, Bradford and Burnley. In reality, these outbreaks of violence had little to do with race. The government was warned by the head of the Commission for Racial Equality, Gurbux Singh, that more violence was to be expected from "Young Muslims who feel disenfranchised" living among the many "Muslim" hotspots in the UK.

The same thing occurred amid the news of widespread grooming of young 'white' girls by 'Asian' men. It was eventually brought to light that these 'Asians' were not only targeting white girls, but also young girls from Hindu and Sikh communities. Since these "Asians" of Pakistani heritage are targeting white, Hindu, and Sikh children, and Pakistan is 96 percent Muslim, wouldn't a more accurate description be "Pakistani Muslim men"?

Another good example would be how the UK tabloids reported on the 'Asians' who spat on Remembrance Day poppies and the girl who was selling them.  The only "Asians" who are offended by poppies, which they see as a reference to soldiers in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc., are Muslims, but this is not mentioned in the report. So, again, the use of "Asian" to describe the perpetrators behind these crimes is inaccurate because their race was irreverent to their motivations.

Not only is this poor journalism, but it is demonizing an entire race, the majority of whom are not Muslim. Time and time again I read hostile comments left by whites on news stories about "Asians" where they attack their race for being backward and in need of deportation. Here's a newsflash for my white readers; Hindu, Sikh and Christian Asian gangs do not go around beating up white people, they are too busy being beaten up by Muslim "Asians".

Whether they accept it or rage against it, Islam is reviving and spreading all over the globe. Muslims, despite the backwardness they are accused of, are thriving wherever they are found

Yes, they are "thriving". Having a birth-rate that eclipses all other religious groups will tend to do that. These birth-rate statistics are no surprise when you consider that this is what Muhammad instructed his followers to do in order to "outnumber the peoples". And lets not harbor any fantasies that Islam is the fastest growing religion. Islam is neither the fastest growing religion by number of adherents or the fastest growing religion by percentage-increase. Even if it were, Muslims should be ashamed of the "uneven playing field" Islam needs in order to achieve this.

Islam is the rock that will not break, and it is a pity to have to find that out only after having broken one’s self against it.

It is a pity. If only Theo van Gogh and millions of others were told this before they were "broken".

It has corrupted them, rotting away at their integrity from the inside until they have become all but open hypocrites.

No, it is Qãhırıï, the proven hypocrite (see above), who has been corrupted by Islam, something which has rotted away his integrity from the inside until he does not see anything wrong with belittling an Iranian for not mastering the English language to the high standards he demands, or does not see anything wrong with vandalizing someone else's website which critiques Islam. Being a pious Muslim convert, Qãhırıï sees it as his duty to attack, slander, and belittle those who do not hold his medieval superstition up on a pedestal.

A person who is willing to deceive about something can only be thought to be willing to deceive about anything, and, perhaps, everything.
A person who is willing to distort the truth once is willing, more than likely, to distort it again, or all the time.
We should not be convinced by the testimony of one who is himself or herself confused.

This is an attempt at poisoning the well, a rhetorical device which can be a special case of argumentum ad hominem. Knowing very well that Islam is a delusion “built on sand”, he, just like many other Muslims, is left with no other option than to make a desperate last-ditch attempt at dissuading other's from viewing the site and having their superstitions challenged.

As such, this paper does not claim to have refuted WikiIslam’s every point. It has not and will not address every one of their points. It has exposed their willful dishonesty and malintent, which is sufficient to negate all of what they have said or will ever say from ever being acceptable.


Even a child would see this for the pseudo-intellectual nonsense that it is.

If A claims B, C and D, and B turns out to be incorrect, it does not logically follow that C and D must also be incorrect.

For example; “WikiReligion” (A) could claim Muhammad (B), Jesus (C), and Buddha (D) were not warlords. A warlord is defined as, “Noun 1. Warlord: supreme military leader exercising civil power in a region especially one accountable to nobody when the central government is weak”. So, in relation to Muhammad (B) they would be incorrect. But this does not in any way negate the fact that Jesus (C) and Buddha (D) do not fulfill the requirements needed to be defined as Warlords.

However, as a parting note, I must agree with Qãhırıï on the issue that his “paper” does not claim to have refuted WikiIslam’s every point. In fact it has refuted nothing, and has only exposed his own incompetence and over reliance on emotionalism and logical fallacies.

Update

It appears that the racist and genocidal editors of the obscure and dishonest MuslimWiki have been in contact with Qãhırıï. Without notifying readers of the post, he has updated it to include links supplied to him by NarSakSasLee. He now provides a "Read more here." link to MuslimWiki's article on WikiIslam, and also adds:

"To prove my critique of Islam is not based on my status as a Muslim, I am providing links to non-Muslims who also find it incredibly biased. See what an atheist and the students and staff of the University of Central Florida had to say."

MuslimWiki's article on WikiIslam has been refuted and thoroughly exposed for the rubbish that it is. It is fit to bursting with blatant lies, misrepresented sources, extreme bias, logical fallacies, absurdities and more lies (read more here).

The atheist Qãhırıï is referring to is Doubting Marcus. He made a post critical of WikiIslam on July 5, 2011, but later publicly apologized to the editors of WikiIslam and humbly retracted his criticism of the site in a post made by him on December 17, 2011 (read more here).

The "KightsWiki" webmaster's  unashamedly hypocritical, inaccurate, biased, and agenda-driven post has also been refuted and thoroughly exposed for the rubbish that it is (read more here & an update here).

But, more importantly, like MuslimWiki, Qãhırıï is also lying to his readers. The students and staff of the University of Central Florida are not behind that silly blog article which appears to have been posted on the request of MuslimWiki editor NarSakSasLee. For all his feigning of rationalism and intelligence, Qãhırıï doesn't seem to understand what "unofficial" means. Let me explain it in terms he may understand;

Someone could live in the middle of Afghanistan and open up a wiki called "TheWhiteHouseWiki". Like KnightsWiki (which unsurprising is currently inactive), they explicitly state that it is an unofficial wiki, and then proceed to create an article named "Qãhırıï < IslamoCritic" (not on the main site but on a personal blog), which states that Qãhırıï is "a complete ignoramus who doesn't understand the meaning of "essay" or "unofficial".

Then I (IslamoCritic) am free to write a blog post denouncing Qãhırıï and stating "Here's proof that I am right!!!! Even the President of the United States, his family and his staff agree that Qãhırıï is a complete ignoramus!!!!"

Friday, 23 March 2012

Accusations of Bias at WikiIslam: Beheading the Messenger

One of the most common complaints against the use of WikiIslam, and other similar sites, as a source on Islamic beliefs is that it is critical of Islam. The argument used by the more intelligent Defenders of the Faith ™ , rather than the ones who simply cry "hate site!", can be summed up with the following:

WikiIslam, by it's very nature (anti-Islamic), is a biased source.
A more accurate/neutral source that represents what Muslims believe would probably be an Islamic website.
It's easy to argue bias in the first instance, but the only argument in the second instance is humans suffer from universal bias.

I think this response is quite rational and correct, but only up to a certain point. There are many problems with this,  and I shall elaborate on them.


Sites critical of Islam

A site is only as good as the references it provides. If the references are reliable, the perceived bias of the site providing the information is irrelevant. It could be run by the grandmaster of the KKK and all the editors could be his evil minions, and it would not diminish the reliability of the information they provide.

What is being done here in order to defend Islam is "attacking the messenger", a subdivision of the ad hominem logical fallacy.

For example; I could hate the taste of sugary foods and claim "eating sugary foods can contribute to damaging your teeth". The fact that I hate sugary foods (yes, I'm a hate monger!) does not alter the validity of my claim.


Pro-Islamic sites

Regarding Muslim websites and representing what Muslims believe; anyone can open a website and claim to represent anything, so, knowing the type of Muslim site that is being referenced is more important than who is behind it. Are the sites scholarly or apologetic in nature?

Apologetics sites are hardly a reliable source about Muslim thinking. By their very nature, they are there to defend Islam from criticism, they are not there to reflect current Muslim thought on anything. They are just as guilty of bias as the sites critical of Islam are. For a Muslim to disparage sites critical of Islam, and then to present these sites as an alternative source for learning about Muslim beliefs, is extremely hypocritical.

Additionally, with scholarly sites, you have to consider whether or not the particular site that is being referenced is taken seriously by Muslims. Looking "scholarly" is irrelevant if Muslim in general disagree with the site.


Does WikiIslam accurately reflect Muslim Beliefs?

Putting WikiIslam to the test, I came across a forum discussion which included the discussion of Aisha's age at consummation. Some WikiIslam articles were cited by a user, and the response was:

Wiki Islam? Are you kidding me? Its a hate site.
Aisha's age at marriage.
http://www.muslim.org/islam/aisha-age.htm

All of those arguments presented in that article, and more, were first popularized by an apologist named Moiz Amjad. They have all been refuted by WikiIslam. Additionally, Shaykh Haddad, one of the most respected Islamic scholars alive today and someone who I respect immensely, replied to his polemics many years ago. His reply was never addressed by Moiz Amjad.

Isn't it strange that a "hate site" more accurately reflects mainstream Muslim beliefs than the site a  Defender of the Faith ™ provided?

It is the same with the issue concerning 72 virgins. Whilst Muslims will often provide you with articles that claim it's all a Jewish conspiracy, WikiIslam provides you with references from scholarly pro-Islamic sources (here, here & here).

Wednesday, 21 March 2012

Criminal Ramblings with an Overweight Saudi Wife

Is it just me or has anyone else noticed how it is only Muslims (not atheists, Christians, Hindus and so on) who openly discuss hacking websites that criticize their beliefs? What is most worrying is the fact that, not once have I witnessed a single Muslim speak out against such behavior, not once has a dissenting Muslim voice said “Y'allah! It's wrong. You shouldn't do that!”

Illegal activity in defence of Islam seems to be widely accepted as the natural thing for them, as good Muslims, to participate in. True, with their preoccupation with emulating the Prophet, you could say it is the “pious” thing for them to do. When Muhammad was faced with criticism, the legality or morality of the means employed to silence the critic never entered the equation.

You can see in this screenshot how the suggestion that WikiIslam should be taken down via hackers does not cause the Saudi Wife to bat an eyelid:



She replies with her silly, but at least legal, “master plan” to take down WikiIslam, by making Wikipedia aware of the site and the use of “wiki” in their name.... Yeah, that'll work. Let's forget about the fact that having “wiki” in the name of a wiki website is a common naming convention used by hundreds of wikis. Maybe this brainstorm was inspired by the fact that MuslimWiki were forced by Wikipedia to change their previous name, which was MuslimWikipedia. And she has the cheek of accusing WikiIslam of being deceptive in its appearance?

Yes, that common complaint, not made by miserable housewives everywhere, makes another appearance when the Saudi Wife tells us:

“I have recently found out there is a website called WikiIslam... When you first look at it, you think the site is legit... then you continue to actually look into it, and you see it is nothing but a blattant[sic] disregard for ....”

As I have already noted in my response to MuslimWiki's lies against WikiIslam, the truth is WikiIslam makes it abundantly clear in their 'About' page, FAQ page and Google description that they are a website critical of Islam. If Saudi housewives are too stupid to notice this, the confusion can hardly be blamed on WikiIslam. The only “similarity” between Wikipedia and WikiIslam is that they both run on wiki software. Muslims seem to assume every wiki is owned by Wikipedia or has to follow Wikipedia policies, so any website which has the backbone to not let Muslims intimidate them into censorship must be deceptive.

Underneath a screenshot of a WikiIslam page which shows Muhammad was an antisemite, she writes:

“PS: I Googled 'who are semites'... to get a page to share with a friend that really things[sic] Arabs who are SEMITES are Anti-Semites... I think its kinda funny!”

This is also a common argument used by many Muslims, and is part of a wider tactic employed in defence of Islam. Namely; word games. They love to play on words. For example, claiming “Muslim" is an Arabic word meaning "one who submits to God", and since Jesus submitted to God, he wasn't a Jew (oh no, certainly not), he was a Muslim.

The idiocy behind such logic doesn't deserve being explained due to its oh so obvious nature. But, in an attempt to get through to Muslims, I will.

"Doctor" is the Latin word for "teacher", so according to the Latin language all teachers are Doctors. In reality, this is meaningless. The literal meanings of words vary from language to language. This does not make all Doctors "teachers" and viceversa. Muslim in Arabic may mean someone who submits to God, but in English it is someone who adheres to the Islamic faith. Obviously, every Arabic speaker, when they're not busy trying to proselytize non-Arabic speakers, is aware of this, otherwise, why not allow Christians, Jews, Sikhs, and other monotheists to visit the Ka'aba in Mecca? After all, they are “Muslims”, aren't they? Also, Qur'an literally means "the recitation", but it would be ludicrous for an English speaking person to say “I am going to Qur'an some poetry”.  

The WikiIslam site explains:

"Technically, Arabs, Ethiopians, and Assyrians can be described as Semitic people, however in the context of "Anti-Semitism" it is commonly understood to refer to people who identify as Jewish."

The references provided confirm this:

“Noun • (n) anti-Semitism, antisemitism (the intense dislike for and prejudice against Jewish people)” – Definition/ Anti-Semitism, Princeton University's WordNet

"Function: noun hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious, ethnic, or racial group" – Definition/ Anti-Semitism, Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

So, basically, what the Saudi Wife is claiming is akin to the grandmaster of the KKK saying, “I'm not a racist. I can't be, because I'm a part of the human race too!!!”

It's pretty depressing, but this is the state of Islamic thinking, and it takes us nicely back to the original topic of discussion; Muslims silencing critics through “Cyber Jihad”.

As critics such as Ali Sina have pointed out, this is due to their intellectual bankruptcy. The only recourse they have available is to emulate their prophet through intimidation, humiliation and killing. Up until the age of the Internet, it was very nearly impossible to criticize Islam without literally losing your head over it. Now that we have the Internet, it really is the last semi-safe place to criticize Islam and how it effects the behavior and attitudes of its followers. This fact tends to infuriate Muslims, who will often "challenge" the critics to show their faces, unaware that their words only confirm the barbaric stereotype earned by their faith. 

I say “semi-safe” because there still are dangers to voicing criticism of Islam on the Internet, even with the relative anonymity it provides. Muslim reactions to criticism go further than simply trying to hack a site to shut it down. Many issue death threats and attempt to track down the people behind these sites in the real world. The reason behind this is not to shake their hands and have a nice discussion over a hot cup of cocoa. No, the reason is to teach them a lesson, even to kill them. For example, Hossam Armanious and his innocent family (originally from an article by the New York Sun):

“A radical Islamic Web site systematically tracks Christians on PalTalk.com, an Internet chat service on which a New Jersey man received a death threat two months before he and his family were murdered. The password protected Arabic Web site, at the address www.barsomyat.com, features pictures and information about Christians who have been particularly active in debating Muslims on PalTalk. […] Hossam Armanious, a Coptic Christian from Jersey City, N.J., who was found murdered earlier this month, frequently debated with Muslims on PalTalk. Two months before Armanious's murder, authorities said he received a death threat from a Muslim PalTalk user: "You'd better stop this bull ... or we are going to track you down like a chicken and kill you." On January 14, Armanious and his family -- including two daughters, ages 15 and 8 -- were found killed in their Jersey City home, bound and gagged with their throats slashed.”

Even if hackers were to somehow remove the site, their actions would be self-defeating. WikiIslam makes regular data backups in multiple locations, so it would swiftly be put back online, and the buzz generated by the other websites and blogs that criticize Islam would probably double its traffic.

Finally, I have no idea how the Saudi Wife looks. But judging by the fact that Muslim dress discourages exercise, resulting in all the countries with the highest obesity rates among women being Muslim countries, and that over 70 per cent of the Saudi population and 70 per cent of women in the Gulf states are alarmingly obese, statistically, there is a big chance that the title of this post is correct.

Sunday, 18 March 2012

Pious Lies: MuslimWiki's article on WikiIslam

Since the hypocritical webmaster of KnightsWiki, the "unofficial University of Central Florida wiki", endorses MuslimWiki as a “balanced” alternative to the “Islamophobic” WikiIslam, I thought I'd take a closer look at MuslimWiki's article on WikiIslam. The webmaster of KnightsWiki refers to it as a “fairly comprehensive article” focused on criticizing them.


Author(s) and history of the article

Before even dealing with the actual content of the article, there are a few things which I feel the reader should be made aware of.

History of the article

The article about WikiIslam was first created on Wikipedia (25 January 2012‎) by NarSakSasLee, a Wikipedia user who claimed he was of Japanese origin and a follower of Buddhism. It was then deleted within a few days (27 January 2012), with reluctant agreement from its author, due to several Wikipedia users noting that, among other issues, it was biased and misrepresented its sources.

You would think this would be the end of it, but, no, the story continues...

On 26 January 2012, just one day after it was created and one day before it was deleted on Wikipedia, the article made its way to MuslimWiki, that bastion of neutrality championed by KnightsWiki, a site which interestingly follows a Muslim point of view which they refer to as Pislam (I'm not kidding or trying to be offensive, they really do call it Pislam). The MuslimWiki user who “found” it on Wikipedia goes by the name of IslamicWarrior.

Author(s)

Taking a look at their current user pages and contribution histories, it doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out that NarSakSasLee, the Wikipedia user who claimed he was of Japanese origin and a Buddhist, and IslamicWarrior, the MuslimWiki user who appears to be of Pakistani origin, are actually one in the same.

In addition to the extremely short window of time he had to “find” NarSakSasLee's article, other evidences that suggest they are one in the same include:

1. IslamicWarrior links to several articles he “copied” from Wikipedia and consequently admits to authoring the WikiIslam article by having it linked under a separate section titled “Created Articles”.

2. "Hilal-i-Jur'at" is an article by NarSakSasLee which, coincidently, is linked on both of their user pages.

3. IslamicWarrior wrote an article titled “Is Islam the fastest growing religion?”. If you look at NarSakSasLee's Wikipedia user contributions, you will notice it is actually text taken from NarSakSasLee's edits on the Wikipedia article “Claims to be the fastest-growing religion”.

4. If you look at their edit history, up until now, when IslamicWarrior edits MuslimWiki, NarSakSasLee takes a break from editing Wikipedia, and vice versa.

5. NarSakSasLee, the “Japanese” user, almost exclusively edits and creates Wikipedia articles associated with Islam and Muslims, including an article in his sandbox about British Pakistanis, whilst IslamicWarrior also seems to show an interest in Japan with his edits on Muslimwiki, he even links to the “Islam in Japan” article.

6. Strangely for someone who claims he is a non-Muslim of Japanese origin, NarSakSasLee's edits on Wikipedia articles mirror the infamous Muslim editor, Jagged 85, by consistently focusing on representing Islam in the most positive light possible whilst representing other faiths (Christianity & Hinduism) in the most negative light.

Take a look at all of his edits on “Claims to be the fastest-growing religion” or “Urine therapy”, where he tries his best to make both Hindus and Christians look like backward piss-drinkers, whilst putting undue weight on a Western Muslim organisation to make it look like Islam is against the practice. Ironically, drinking a certain desert animal's urine is unanimously accepted as halal by mainstream Islam and a quick Google search confirms that it is endorsed by Muslims all over the net as one of Islam's “scientific miracles”, but you would never know this by reading the Wikipedia article that he has butchered with his “Pislam” point of view.

(Update: NarSakSasLee has another user account named ChainedButFree)

Some of the many problems with MuslimWiki's article

Extreme bias & logical fallacies

1. Extreme bias

Before delving into specific problems, you can see straight away with statements such as, “Wikiislam's main purpose of existence is to paint Islam and Muslims stereotypically and negatively”, “[WikiIslam is] grossly mis-representative of Muslims”, and with claims that WikiIslam somehow “disguises itself”, that the MuslimWiki article is extremely biased against WikiIslam. In fact, it has absolutely nothing positive to say about the site.

Partial screen capture of MuslimWiki's "unbiased" and "balanced" entry for WikiIslam

This leads me to wonder how the webmaster of KnightsWiki could possibly claim he wants “to make sure that the content is fair” and that “one of the best offerings of a wiki is the ability to present both sides of an argument”, and then go on to endorsing MuslimWiki and its article about WikiIslam as “a balanced view”.

Did he even read the same article that I am reading? How could someone who is not a Muslim himself be so severely blinded by his pro-Islam bias?

2. Logical fallacies

Conveniently ignoring the fact that WikiIslam's readership is primarily Muslims, ex-Muslims, and non-Muslims living in Eastern countries and that it is even linked to by RichardDawkins.net (where it states WikiIslam is “a work in progress for factual information critical of Islam”), the MuslimWiki article also claims “Most notably the website has been referenced by Evangelical and fundamentalist Christians as well as neo-conservative American authors in books that demonise religions other than Christianity and Judaism”.

This is clearly an attempt at using the 'Guilt by association' ad hominem fallacy. i.e. “Crazy fundies reference WikiIslam, so WikiIslam is written by crazy fundies!!!!”.

As noted by Wikipedia editors on the deleted “WikiIslam Talk” page, there is absolutely nothing notable about receiving trivial mentions in obscure self-published books, and there is no reference provided for the claim that they are written by “Evangelical and fundamentalist Christians as well as neo-conservative American authors” or that they “demonise religions other than Christianity and Judaism”. The language chosen to describe the authors is being used because of their negative connotations.

Even if WikiIslam was referenced by the “Evangelical bogeymen”, what exactly is the problem with that? Is WikiIslam supposed to censor information? Should blisteringly effective critics like Sam Harris and the late Christopher Hitchens be silenced to avoid being quoted by “neo-cons”?

Misrepresenting sources & blatant lies

1. The MuslimWiki article claims “It has been reported by several news sources including the Associated Press as being a website that shows a 'one sided view of Islam' to make 'Muslims look backward and stupid' whilst disguising itself as a website that solely "criticises" Islam.”

This is a blatant lie that was pointed out to him on Wikipedia's “WikiIslam Talk” page.

The article provided as a reference was from a Muslim site named “Suaramedia”. Just by reading its biased title (“WikiIslam, Encyclopedia of Islam under the pretext Wrong!”) and style of writing, it becomes painfully obvious that this is not an AP article. Also worth noting is the fact that AP articles propagate widely; were it an AP article, we'd expect to see it popping up in other news sources, but this is not the case. Simply putting (AP) at the beginning of an article does not make it an Associated Press article.

In addition to these problems, note how they claim “It has been reported by several news sources”, but only provide the one biased reference to a “news” article. To make their claim of news “sources” appear true, they later mention criticism of Wikislam by “Suaramedia, a news organisation based in Indonesia”. What they fail to mention is that the Suaramedia article and the “Associated Press” article are one in the same (apparently it doesn't bother them that providing the 1 link for both articles make their deceit obvious). So here they are making one set of complaints from a biased Muslim site named “Suaramedia” appear as if they were made by two separate, and presumably unbiased, “news organisations”

2. The MuslimWiki article claims “The website has been criticised heavily for using Islamophobic sources, and using writings from Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller as notable sources to make claims about Islam ranging from Islamic history to Islamic belief systems.[1] The website has been banned in Saudi Arabia citing these reasons specifically.”

This is 3 blatant lies in 1 that were, in part, pointed out to him on MuslimWiki's “WikiIslam Talk” page before he blanked it without discussion.

For the first lie;

The MuslimWiki article references a paper by Göran Larsson, which was presented at a conference in Sweden on December 2006, as the source for its claim about Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller. Nowhere in the paper does Göran Larsson make this claim. You can even confirm this for yourself by reading the reference MuslimWiki provide. Larsson's paper is also used in other parts of the article to make further false claims (I will deal with those later in this post).

For the second lie;

The imaginative author simply made up the claim about Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller being used on WikiIslam. Again, you can confirm this for yourself by going onto WikiIslam and checking their completed articles (i.e. ones which are not visibly labelled as needing improvements or awaiting review) for any claims made about Islam that use Robert Spencer or Pamela Geller as a source.

Here are some examples;

*List of Killings Ordered or Supported by Muhammad: This article cites 130 different sources. From a quick look, I can gather that every single citation has a pro-Islamic and/or scholarly source. Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller are nowhere in sight. Maybe they were too busy at a pro-Zionist convention to lend the editors at WikiIslam a hand? Who knows.

*Questions to Ask a Muslim: This article cites 190 different sources. Again, Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller are nowhere in sight.

*72 Virgins: This article cites 53 different sources. Unless Robert Spencer or Pamela Geller are one of the virgins, this article too is free from their nefarious pro-Zionist agenda and influence (maybe ol' Bob was busy forging some of the authentic Islamic sources WikiIslam used to prove the 72 virgins “myth”?).

Sure, there may be some pages (out of the 2,316 articles) that need improvement, but to claim that they base their criticism of Islamic history and doctrines off the writings of Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller is a complete lie. 

For the third lie;

Who told them WikiIslam was banned in Saudi Arabia because of its “use of Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller as sources”? Larsson's paper does not say this, and according to SA, the site was banned for what they term as “pornography”. This is either a codeword for material that critiques Islam, or the Saudi people have some very strange and unique sexual fetishes.

And just in case you're wondering; no, there does not appear to be anything that could be classed, by non-Muslims at least, as “pornographic”.

3. The MuslimWiki article claims “The website does not allow Muslims to contribute to the wiki as stated in the FAQ section by the owner of the website”.

This is another blatant lie that was pointed out to him on Wikipedia's “WikiIslam Talk” page.

If you look at the page history for WikiIslam's FAQ during January 2012 (when the MuslimWiki article was created) it clearly says “Unlike the thousands of pro-Islamic sites on the net which are never labeled as hate sites, we welcome Muslims to edit the site and express an alternate point of view.”

True to their word, there are plenty of pro-Islamic articles available at WikiIslam. They have in fact been accepting pro-Islamic submissions since December 2008 (an article named “Barrier of seas”) and one of the most trusted editors over there was a Muslim. Even from the beginning, WikiIslam has (and still does) offer a link on its FAQ to MuslimWiki for Muslim editors who may prefer to edit a site that only allows biased pro-Islam material. How much fairer/charitable can a critics site be?  And how much more hypocritical can a pro-Islamic site that does not allow opposing views be to criticize another site for allegedly doing the same thing they do?

4. The MuslimWiki article claims “unlike Wikipedia, access to editing articles proves very difficult for the public.[2][1] Each edit is checked by "special contributors" or "reviewers" who can approve or disapprove of the edits.[1] According to the statistics provided by WikiIslam itself out of 1,692 registered users, only 2 have these "reviewer" privileges suggesting that the website is heavily censored.”

This is very inaccurate, and dishonestly conceals the reasons behind some of WikiIslam's policies.   They are also misrepresenting sources once again by using Larsson's 2006-2007 paper to back up something that occurred years later.

All pages on WikiIslam are under "Pending-changes protection" (since very late in December 2011), meaning that they are open for editing, even to IP editors, but changes only become visible to readers once they have been reviewed by a user with the appropriate access. This is nothing unusual for a wiki. In fact all the pages on the German Wikipedia are also under Pending-changes protection . When the MuslimWiki article was created (January 2012) "Pending-changes protection" had only just been implemented there. MuslimWiki, rather disingenuously, states “out of 1,692 registered users, only 2 have these 'reviewer' privileges” in order to shock its readers. The truth is, yes, there are over a thousand registered users, but only a handful are active editors and a lot of the content is provided by what they call “contributors” who send material in via email rather than actually edit the site with a user account. Currently, almost all active users (a lot more than 2) have “reviewer privileges”.

The reason why "Pending-changes protection" became necessary was because WikiIslam is constantly vandalised by Muslims and its non-Muslim editors have openly received (homophobic) death-threats (by IP users none-the-less). In addition to that, before the “Pending-changes protection” was added, Muslims often complained about how “anyone” could insert false information. They would attempt to use the logical fallacy known as “poisoning the well”, by finding a “mistake” and then imploring others not to trust the site. From the WikiIslam FAQ:
“Someone found mistakes in one of your articles. How can I trust the rest of the site?
WikiIslam hosts 2,316 articles written by various users. Anyone who claims they have found mistakes in one of our articles and therefore the rest of our site should be dismissed, is committing the logical fallacy of poisoning the well. Also note that essays do not necessarily reflect the views of WikiIslam. We are receptive to criticism and appreciate the input of our readers because it only results in improving our site. So if you notice any errors please let us know ”

Some wikis clearly need more moderation than other, especially if the wiki in question is focused on a topic as controversial as Islam, or when one simple mistake can and will be used to “discredit” the entire site.
Now that this “anyone could insert false information” complaint has been remedied by WikiIslam, the same group of people (i.e. Muslims) start complaining about “censorship”.

You're damned if you do, and you're damned if you don't.

5. The MuslimWiki article claims “In September 2006, Faith Freedom International (FFI)… launched WikiIslam […] WikiIslam denies this fervently”

This is a lie.

Yes, Faith Freedom International launched WikiIslam, but this is not what any editor at WikiIslam has ever denied, fervently or otherwise (if you look at WikiIslam's “Site News” page, they quite clearly mention in 2007 of being hosted on the FFI server). What they do deny, however, is the false claim that they still remain a part of FFI. The “About” page explains the facts:
"WikiIslam was created on October 27, 2005, in collaboration with Ali Sina and Faith Freedom International. The site was in a testing phase for about a year and on September 4, 2006, it was opened to the public. In September 2007, the FFI server was hacked and was down for almost a month, and due to server problems, editing was disabled at WikiIslam for almost a year. In August 2008, the site was moved out of FFI's server and since then it has been operating independently, remaining unaffiliated with or owned by any organization."

Ali Sina is a very notable former Muslim and has written a lot of critical material in regards to Muhammad and Islam. Whilst his no-nonsense approach to criticism is very powerful, intimidating enough to have Zakir Naik ducking for cover, he has also said things which have offended people (some of his views are certainly not shared with mine). This is clearly another fallacious attempt by MuslimWiki to make people dismiss the site without even reading its fully referenced content, and, judging by the amount of text and screenshots used, they mistakenly thought it was some sort of “smoking gun” against the site to associate it with him.

6. The MuslimWiki article claims “Professor Göran Larsson Ph.D, and Senior Lecturer of religious studies at the Department of Literature, History of Ideas and Religion at the University of Gothenburg, Sweden, an expert on Islam and Muslims in Europe.”

Nowhere in the reference given does it state that Larsson is an “expert on Islam and Muslims in Europe”. Even if he were an “expert”, how does that effect WikiIslam's criticism of mainstream Islamic doctrines and Islamic pseudo science? Does Larsson provide a response to WikiIslam's “Lesser vs Greater Jihad” article or its numerous articles refuting laughable claims of science in the Qur'an? No, he does not provide any of this. What is being attempted here is known as an “appeal to authority.”

7. The MuslimWiki article claims (below a screenshot) “A screenshot of Wikiislam "Policies and Guidelines" page addressing that Muslims are not allowed to edit articles. This message has appeared several times before but is sometimes removed.[1]”

There are several problems with this section:

The first problem;

You can clearly see in the screenshot that the page states WikiIslam has temporarily suspended accepting pro-Islam articles (after a full 3 years -2009 to 2011- of accepting them). Thus refuting the claims, “Muslims are not allowed to edit articles” and WikiIslam “does not allow Muslims to contribute to it according to its own policy”. If it was a WikiIslam policy to not allow pro-Islamic content, then there would be no need to put a message there notifying its Muslim editors. Additionally, if it was a WikiIslam policy to not allow pro-Islamic content, there should be no pro-Islamic pages written by Muslims and hosted on the site. However there are plenty of pro-Islamic articles available there which can be read by anyone.

You've probably already guessed that the reason for this temporary change was mainly due to the behaviour of WikiIslam's Muslim editors. WikiIslam's P&G page explains:
“Due to constant vandalism, disruptive editing, non-compliance with guidelines and a lack of time, we are currently not accepting pro-Islamic submissions. This change is only temporary, and our present list of pro-Islamic articles can still be viewed here. For debates and general discussions about Islam, please visit the FFI forum.”

The second problem;

The claim that “This message has appeared several times before but is sometimes removed” is not supported by the page history. To be blunt; it's another blatant lie from the imaginative minds of MuslimWiki's authors.

The third problem;

All of this is referenced to Larsson's paper, something which does not support any of the claims made. Therefore, once again, the author is caught misrepresenting sources and blatantly lying.

Miscellaneous problems, absurdities & more lies

1. The MuslimWiki article quotes the biased Suaramedia article claiming “at a glance this website is a complete reference source for Muslims, but when viewed closely, is a community site that collects material negative and critical of Islam”

This is absolute rubbish. In another section they also use the same site as a reference to back up the claim that WikiIslam somehow “disguises itself” to fool readers. The truth is WikiIslam makes it abundantly clear in their 'About' page, FAQ page and Google description that they are a website critical of Islam. If Muslims are too stupid to notice this, the confusion can hardly be blamed on WikiIslam.

2. The MuslimWiki article claims the WikiIslam “website is located in Washington DC, USA (although several WHOIS look ups have shown it is based in Houston, Texas)”

This location refers to the hosting server of the website. There are millions of servers that have millions of hosting accounts and the server location is not used as the "website location".

3. The MuslimWiki article claims “It has been reported by several news sources including the Associated Press as being a website that shows a "one sided view of Islam" to make "Muslims look backward and stupid" whilst disguising itself as a website that solely "criticises" Islam.[2] A 67 page report backed by several European research organisations was presented to EUROFOR and confirmed this trend in 2007.[1]”

I'm no rocket scientist, but even I know that a paper written only 3 months after WikiIslam was launched in 2006, cannot “confirm” any trend reported by a biased Muslim site (not AP like it is stated) in a poorly written article in June 2011. Is it possible Larsson has discovered the secret to time travel? If he has, then he's keeping the discovery to himself.

In Closing

I apologise for the excessive length of this post, but even now I'm sure there is plenty of points that I have missed. If the amount of misinformation and lies spouted by some religious Muslims shock you, then be aware that Muhammad himself allowed Muslims to lie and murder in order to silence critics of Islam. Once you learn this inconvenient fact, the religious justification behind the lowly and often murderous actions of some pious Muslims in reaction to critics (Satanic verses, cartoons, Qur'an burnings, etc) ceases to remain a mystery.

What is truly baffling is how an educated non-Muslim running an unofficial university wiki could possibly endorse this tripe as “balanced”.

Update: Linking to MuslimWiki Banned?

Looks like NarSakSasLee has been busy. He has updated MuslimWiki's article to include criticism from other bloggers (some of which, as in the case of "KnightsWiki", appear to have been canvased for this very purpose).

They now have an "External link" with the text "An atheists experience with WikiIslam.net". The atheist MuslimWiki are referring to is Doubting Marcus. He made a post critical of WikiIslam on July 5, 2011, but what MuslimWiki convenient fails to tell you is that Marcus publicly apologized to the editors of WikiIslam and humbly retracted his criticism of the site in a post made by him on December 17, 2011. (read more here).

The "KnightsWiki" webmaster originally contacted the owner of WikiIslam for assistance, assistance which the owner generously provided. But almost immediately, the KnightsWiki webmaster proceeded to attempt vandalism on WikiIslam and then, just as swiftly, made a lengthy post on his blog criticizing the site. There are only two posts in total on his blog and the wiki has been inactive for months. His unashamedly hypocritical, inaccurate, biased, and agenda-driven post has been refuted and thoroughly exposed for the rubbish that it is (read more here & an update here).

Qãhırıï is an African-American Muslim convert who, according to his Facebook postings, apparently believes he has "refuted WikiIslam". NarSakSasLee has certainly contacted him because he has now updated his own post to include links to MuslimWiki, Doubting Marcus, and KnightsWiki (which he lies about, claiming it was written by "staff of the University of Central Florida"). He does all this to "prove" his critique of Islam is not "based on my status as a Muslim." His reply, which only proves what a complete ignoramus he is (someone who doesn't even understand the meaning of "essay" or "unofficial") has also  been refuted and thoroughly exposed for the rubbish that it is (read more here).

NarSakSasLee, who created the original article on Wikipedia and then went on to attempt recruiting the infamous Jagged 85, has clearly declared "jihad" on WikiIslam, a site which apparently must have shook his iman (faith) tremendously for him to be obsessing over it in such a way. In his update, the MuslimWiki article has a section titled, "Linking to MuslimWiki Banned". Most of this has been dealt with in my reply to the hypocritical KnightsWiki webmaster, but I will expand on that here.

MuslimWiki is an obscure site. On a scale of 1 to 10 in popularity, it would score a zero. In fact it's probably more obscure, non-notable and has less traffic than the many obscure pro-Islam blogs they use in an attempt to smear its perceived "competition" (I use inverted commas because, frankly, they're not in the same league). WikiIslam's Alexa ranking fluctuates but remains constantly above 200,000. When NarSakSasLee wrote his tripe, WikiIslam was ranked 133,415. Conversely, MuslimWiki currently isn't even ranked in the top 7 million.


Why would WikiIslam link to such a sh**ty site on their main article? Why would the owner of the site even care about what such an obscure site says about WikiIslam? If he cared about that, then he'd also have to care about every single obscure blog opened up by Tom, Dick and Harry. MuslimWiki is not worthy of having its existence recognized by such a well-known site as WikiIslam. Hence, it is left for me to deal with on this blog. It simply doesn't deserve anything more.

This is just another sad and pathetic attempt by a sad and pathetic individual to goad WikiIslam into providing them some much needed traffic by engaging them in a slanging match. This is hardly anything new for incompetent Muslim apologists who love to ride off the popularity of sites critical of Islam (Answering Christianity and Faithfreedom.com come to mind). Believe me, if and when MuslimWiki becomes popular, MuslimWiki will get its own article on WikiIslam, and that article will not be full of lies and fantasies made up in the mind of its editors.

In short; WikiIslam may be notable enough in order for MuslimWiki to launch a dishonest spear-campaign against it, but MuslimWiki is certainly not notable enough for WikiIslam to even acknowledge. Beggars can't be choosers, so MuslimWiki should be gracious for the fact that WikiIslam generously link to such an obscure and insignificant site on their FAQ as an alternative.

Update: Pro-WikiIslam Muslim Opinions Silenced

There is a reason why people refer to pro-Islamic hackers as "Internet Jihadists". These  hackers are the Taliban of the Internet. Like their real life counterparts, they "kill" their critics and force their beliefs onto others (all of the Islamically-hacked Christian and Hindu sites that I have come across, have had their content replaced with verses from the Qur'an and a "call" to embrace Islam).

It appears that NarSakSasLee/IslamicWarrior is up to his old underhanded tricks again. WikiIslam's webmaster has notified me that a couple of Muslims who had expressed positive views of the site have contacted him and have removed the related statements. I suppose having a student at Umm al-Qura University (Mecca, Saudi Arabia) say, "I usually wouldn't endorse a site like this, but in this case all of the sources were referenced in great detail", doesn't serve NarSakSasLee's biased and dishonest agenda.

Although there is no proof to link the recent failed attempt at a DDoS attack on WikiIslam to NarSakSasLee/IslamicWarrior, his other actions certainly merit him the title of "Internet Jihadist" or maybe "Internet Islamist". Silencing opinions that contradict his own and making sure fellow Muslims tow the party line.